This is the report of my research involving 3 CD's:

Marilyn Manson-Mechanical Animals which contains a Skeleton(Henger/???)
Guns N' Roses-Appetite for Destruction which also contains a Skeleton(Henger/???)
Guns N' Roses-Appetite for Destruction which contains a Citronie(Kato/Suezo)

The test was made comparing the results of the three CD's in Monster Rancher
1, Monster Rancher 2 and Monster Rancher Battle Cards Episode II.

Unfortunately I don't own a CD Copier so I won't be able to compare the
number of frames of each CD. Anyway some of you might be interested in it.

I will post in parts so I won't have to write it all at once.

I will also post it in other Monster Rancher related sites.

If I put my hands in a CD copier I will for sure add more information to this thread.


CD1: Marilyn Manson - Mechanical Animals>>>>>>>>>>

UPC 6 06949 02732 2

14 TRACKS (62:38 MIN)

T01-5:01min T06-5:30min T11-4:17min
T02-3:47min T07-4:18min T12-4:50min
T03-4:33min T08-2:57min T13-5:01min
T04-3:10min T09-5:03min T14-5:38min
T05-4:50min T10-3:41min

MR1
Toto(Tiger/Golem)
LIF-118
POW-162
INT-105
SKI-95
SPD-119
DEF-141
TOT-740

MR2(Henger/???)
Skeleton
POW-161
INT-147
SKI-159
SPD-127
DEF-101
TOT-797
(arm cannon)

CBII
Zilla-Never Mind

CD2: Guns N' Roses - Appetite for Destruction ( with Skeleton )>>>>>>>>>>

UPC 7 20642 41482 8

12 TRACKS (53:52MIN)

T01-4:33min T05-3:49min T09-5:57min
T02-3:23min T06-6:47min T10-3:17min
T03-4:29min T07-3:40min T11-3:26min
T04-4:23min T08-3:51min T12-6:15min

MR1
Eye Guy(Worm/Suezo)
LIF-94
POW-121
INT-113
SKI-131
SPD-95
DEF-145
TOT-699

MR2
Skeleton(Henger/???)
LIF-85
POW-152
INT-184
SKI-165
SPD-167
DEF-36
TOT-769

CBII
Wild Rush

CD3: Guns N' Roses - Appetite for Destruction ( with Citronie )>>>>>>>>>>

UPC 7 20642 41482 8

12 TRACKS (53:50MIN)

T01-4:33min T05-3:49min T09-5:57min
T02-3:23min T06-6:47min T10-3:17min
T03-4:29min T07-3:40min T11-3:26min
T04-4:23min T08-3:51min T12-6:13min

MR1
Eye Guy(Worm/???)
LIF-94
POW-121
INT-113
SKI-131
SPD-95
DEF-145
TOT-699

MR2
Citronie(Kato/Suezo)
LIF-78
POW-87
INT-151
SKI-121
SPD-197
DEF-142
TOT-776

CBII
Gali-Evil Dance

Skeleton X Skeleton>>>>>>>>>>

Conclusions:
1-The CD's are very different both in duration and number of tracks, anyway they have the same monster.
2-The Skeletons are NOT equal, CD1's stats are higher and it has an additional hit tech: arm cannon.


Roses X Roses>>>>>>>>>>

Conclusions:
1-The CD's have the same the same UPC's but CD2 was pressed in 1999 by Microservice Tecnologia Digital da Amazônia and CD3 in 1991 by Sonopress- Rimo da Amazônia Industrial e Comércio Fonográfica LTDA.
2-In Monster Rancher1 they have the same monster, with the same set of stats.
3-In Monster Rancher 2 they have VERY different monsters, and in MRCBEp.II they have different cards.
4-CD3 is 2seconds shorter than CD2, the difference comes from the last track(Rocket Queen)

Final Conclusions>>>>>>>>>>

1-MR and MR2 shrines probably take different things into consideration to generate monsters, because CD2 and CD3 have identical monsters in MR1 but different ones in MR2.
2-I believe I'm giving enough proof that two CD's with same UPC's are not necessarily with the same monster as everyone thought.
3-I did it in a hurry, if I forgot to mention anything please tell me. Any question, just ask.

this is nice work, red hare! thanx for stopping by.

You might want to try running them through the CloneCD software. Take a look in the General Q&A area of the Laboratory for a thread entitled "Where is CloneCD". -Or take a look at the only FAQ thread on how to use it. You don't need a burner (I don't have one) to get the data we have been publishing!

Thanks but I can't download because I use my work's computer. When I have time(probably in my Vacation in April) I'll fix that =b