Did anyone besides me laugh when they saw the Undine they unlocked from the Undine Slate? "What horrible stats!" I told my brother-in-law, "She won't be worth a crap!!" I should be slapped and banned from playing MR2 after this. I just finished raising her, using Dark Phoenix method. When I first started using her on this method, she was 1 month old. I had brought her to the ranch for a month earlier. Why? I don't know. Anyway, here are some stats for the greatest monster to grace the presence of my ranch:

Monster used: Ariel 1st Gen Undine from slate

Method: Dark Phoenix's (in)famous raising method

Items held for effect: 2 Dino Tails, 2 Sculptures, 2 Gemini Cups, 1 Firestone

Drugs Used: Troron (3)
Items Used (other than Nuts Oil):38 Magic Banana's, 21 Mint Leaves, 11 Candies, 4 Powders

Errantries: 6

Techs Learned: Splash, Kiss, Arrow, Aqua Wave, Cold Geyser, Hailstorm

Beginning Funds: 231460G
Ending Funds: 376500G

Begin Stats 0 yrs 1 mos: LIF 50, POW 10, INT 173, SKI 100, SPD 100, DEF 60

End Stage 1 0 yrs 5 mos: LIF 106, POW 120, INT 173, SKI 191, SPD 100, DEF 60

End Stage 2 1 yrs 4 mos: LIF 157, POW 97, INT 321, SKI 308, SPD 390, DEF 61

End Stage 3 2 yrs 3 mos: LIF 172, POW 34, INT 660, SKI 434, SPD 929, DEF 38

Ariel received Gold Peach here to extend prime.

End Extended Prime 4 yrs 4 mos: LIF 353, POW 119, INT 985, SKI 976, SPD 963, DEF 207

FINAL STATS 5 yrs 9 mos: LIF 514, POW 205, INT 999, SKI 999, SPD 999, DEF 371 TOTAL: 4087

RECORD: 70W-0L 67KO's. Other 3 victories not by knockout were where opponent gave up.

Purse won: 184300G

This was an incredible monster to raise. It was the first time I had a monster give me anything worth using. She gave me 11 Ocean Stones, which I sold at 1000G each. She won the Major 4, defeated Poritoka in the Legends Cup, and was in the Hall Of Fame before turning 4. She proceeded to go through the M4 at least 3 more times after that. She was also the first monster I've used that maxxed out 3 stats.

Next objective: Find a great combination to mix her with, and train another one. But first, I'll train Gonzo II, my 2nd gen Garuda with some butt-kickin' stats.

Great info! I've always thought that raising techniques were as important, or more, than great starting stats. I recall a very old post by B. Campbell on the old board where he said he thought there was no such thing as a "best" monster. There are tricks to getting the best out of certain types of monsters, but the rancher's skill is the real key.

Some people can train certain types of monsters better than others. I have had little or no luck with Mocks, Suezo, & Katos to name a few, but I've done pretty well with Durahan's, Phoenix (Love those Garuda's!), Bajarl's, and now add Undine to the mix. I also would have to say that I agree with you in the fact that there is no "best" monster. I trained a pure hopper (which most people hate) to S Class, and it won 3 of the M4 and won Elder's Cup for me. Lived to over 6 yrs. old. Not too bad for a 1st gen Hopper in my book.

A moment of silence for my first, and so far, only Undine. She got smooshed by Rockgeiger when she was just a young 'un, and didn't pull through. I actually hadn't planned to work on another one for a while, but seeing the progression of yours makes me tempted to!

i stupidly threw out my slate undine. luckily, i had crash bandicoot warped, and got my undine back by using the siren you get there in combos.

What kind of Undine did you end up with, as far as stats?

my undine born from combining a siren and a daina started with ~350 int, 100-200 everything else. ended up with 950 int, 900 ski and spd, and acceptable everything else; lived long enough to win a silver peach, also beat poritoka to go into the hall o fame.

Incredibly enough, exactly 7 months later, I finished raising Ariel II, the 2nd generation to my Undine line. Needless to say, I haven't played much up until the past few days. Here's some vitals on Ariel II, who's sitting in the freezer until I find something that I can get a great/good combo out of:

NAME: Ariel II
MONSTER TYPE: 2nd Gen Undine {Undine/Undine)
ACQUIRED: Combined Ariel 1st Gen Undine, & Cruella 1st Gen Siren (Undine/Joker)
BEGINNING STATS:

LIF	POW	INT	SKI	SPD	DEF
164	56	397	347	349	141

END STAGE 1: 0 yrs. 10 mos.

LIF	POW	INT	SKI	SPD	DEF
180	58	432	460	369	144

END STAGE 2: 1 yr. 11 mos.

LIF	POW	INT	SKI	SPD	DEF
223	43	718	674	508	172

FREEZY POP: 4 yrs. 3 mos.

LIF	POW	INT	SKI	SPD	DEF
402	59	885	905	883	664

Ariel II received Golden & Silver Peach, and is another HOF'er for me. Here are her battle numbers:

RECORD: 104-0 87 KO'S. Rest of victories were wimpouts. Also, was my 1st 100 battle winner. Won the Major 4 battles 4 times each, Hero Cup 3 times, Legend Cup over Poritoka, & Captained the IMa vs. FIMBA meet for a victory.
PURSE: 232150G
TRAINING METHOD: Nobody but "The Man's"!

FINAL STATS: Permanant Freezy Pop at 6 yrs.

LIF	POW	INT	SKI	SPD	DEF
602	211	999	999	999	847

TOTAL POINTS: 4657

Not too shabby! I think I'm going to work on my Garuda project next, then I may get back to the Ariel family. Hard to say at this point.

Wow! How many moves?

Meant to put that in there:
Started with: Ice Sword, Splash, Cold Fog, Arrow, Aqua Wave, & HailStorm.
Learned: Kiss, Aqua Waves, Cold Geyser, Ice Coffin, Dolphin Blow, Water Gun, Cold Whirl, Ice Arrow, & Vitalization.

Total Techs: 15