Predictable traits

Monster Rancher Metropolis: Monster Rancher Advance 2 Archive (GameBoy Advance): Miscellaneous Q&A (Post New Questions Here): Predictable traits
By Seize on Sunday, February 2, 2003 - 01:39 pm:

While training an Octopee/Octopee, Pass: F, I gained the triat Up IQ, and then soon lost it. After some trial and error I noticed a definate pattern.
If Int is its highest stat, it has Up IQ. If not, it doesn't. Always.

I would appreciate it if somebody else would verify this and perhaps post any other triats they can predictably gain (or lose) with specific breeds.


By Infernus on Sunday, February 2, 2003 - 03:18 pm:

I checked this over with my JammHat(Henger/Suezo), everything you say checks out alright for me.


By GoldenBoy on Sunday, February 2, 2003 - 05:28 pm:

Up IQ comes and goes for a lot of monsters. It's not based on INT being the highest stat, but it's based on training in INT. When you train in INT (either slot for a hard drill) it will bring up Up IQ the longer you go with no INT training, Up IQ will eventually disappear.


By Seize on Tuesday, February 4, 2003 - 09:01 pm:

At least with an Octopee/Octopee it's nice to know it'll be there automatically (asuming there is an empty slot) when INT is the greatest stat.
Due to Octopee's attacks and even stat gains it's useful to choose to maintain atleast slightly higher INT as higher stats in other areas don't yeild other traits (I haven't even tried DEF, though).


By Seize on Tuesday, February 4, 2003 - 09:02 pm:

What other monsters have predictable traits like that?


By GoldenBoy on Wednesday, February 5, 2003 - 11:54 am:

None that I have seen. I have never earned anything like Up Power in the numerous Golems I've trained.

Also, I'll say it again, having INT as the highest stat is not a guarantee of getting Up IQ. It works differently than that. See my above post.


By Kurasu Soratobu on Friday, February 14, 2003 - 10:41 am:

I have to call doubts on that, Goldenboy. As soon as my monster got below the intelligence at highest, it lost High IQ. And as soon as I trained it, High IQ came back. I've never had it when the monster had anything but Intelligence at its highest point. It worked like clockwork for me.


By Seize on Saturday, February 15, 2003 - 05:00 pm:

Thank you for backing me up Kurasu.

I haven't seen this work for any monsters other than Octopee and I haven't noticed any other traits in octopee like it. But if there is one in the game perhaps more can be found.


By Thorr on Monday, February 17, 2003 - 06:26 am:

Well, HiIQ can only be passed by sparring. So I seriously doubt that wat Kurasu is saying is at all true. If you are talking about Up IQ, you might have a case. However, I can blow that theory right out of the water since my Golem just got a random occurrence of Up IQ with an Int of only 196. My highest stat is his power at 641. So, Up IQ probably has a good chance of being around when your highest stat is Int, but it is absolutely NOT required. I am not saying that your phenomena is invalid, it's just not a perfect rule.

-Thorr


By Kurasu Soratobu on Monday, February 17, 2003 - 11:38 am:

You're right, Thorr. I meant Up IQ. Sorry for the confusion on that. The only place I've gotten Hi anything is with the doc.

However, with up IQ, I've gotten it with a mocchi, a suzarin, and a Torridon in the same way as well: intelligence being the highest, and as soon as it was no longer highest, the monster lost it.

You're right. It isn't a perfect rule. However, it does seem there are several monsters where this is a definite way to get it. Namely, ones that are particularly good in intelligence?


By Seize on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 11:38 pm:

Dragons also gain UP IQ this way.
It seams all of these monsters have better statgains in their Non-Inteligence abilities (although octopee seams even).


By GoldenBoy on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 06:40 am:

ANY monster can get it Up IQ!!!
Don't overanalyze it, its just the way it happens. Please reread my first post in this thread. It has not been disproven, it still holds true.
Monsters I've had with Up IQ:
Arrowhead
Doodle
Dragon
Gali
Garu
Gitan
Golem
Hare
Henger
Joker
Lesione
Mew
Monol
Phoenix
Pixie
Tiger

Until you find a monster that cannot get Up IQ when you train in INT, let's let this rest OK?


By Seize on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 05:39 pm:

Fine, if I'm training an Octopee/Octopee Pass: F or Dragon/Dragon Pass: - and his INT doesn't become his highest stat he WILL NOT get Up IQ from training INT!!

I'm not talking about surgery or training w/ coaches who have Up IQ. And I'm just looking for patterns in aquiring traits MRA2.


By Seize on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 05:52 pm:

If GoldenBoy is correct (and he has a good track record) then any monster can gain Up IQ predictably.
This is information is useful.

If they bothered to code this they could have easily linked traits for other stats but I personally haven't noticed any.

I've always been able to get Popular by remaining undefeated. I've also never had a monster with a loss in its record aquire aquire Popular. I'm not sure how many wins are neccessary but I'm sure it can be found.

For those of us do don't wish to hire a coach, use a different password, or dish out the cash and reset like crazy durring surgery for traits some can be aquired just through game play. I'd like to find out which ones can.

I've had a Golem/Golem gain dignity from I don't know what but I'd like to find out. Especially if it could lead to getting StatKing.


By Genki on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 04:06 pm:

My Dragon got Popluar because it won the First AGIMA Offical match very soon after being born... but then it lost it in my next tourney when i lost two matches, and got second place.

(This might not be that reliable, because i wasn't really paying attention to how long I had popular)


By Seize on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 12:39 pm:

I also was able to gain Popular after my monster won the Offical E Cup his first time to a battle. I checked his info after each battle to see if it might show up before the battle ended and it didn't but his fame went up 21 after the 5 battles.

I've trained a few monsters who have lost popular and 21 is more fame than I could get.

It would be interesting to find out if anybody has gained Popular w/out the monster reaching D rank.

I believe this is a very easy trait to gain (and easy to lose). But not too useful as traits are limited to 6 and popularity isn't very useful. So I'm going to try and work on other characteristics.


By GoldenBoy on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 01:07 pm:

Popular is useful to get fame, which makes you monster happier, and more reliable and work harder.

It is also still up in the air whether or not it helps make Soulmates. I have gone back and forth on that, and I currently think it does.


By Genki on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 03:52 pm:

I'm just about to create a new monster... so I can check to see if Popular can only be gained at the first Offical E match... I'll be back later with results...


By Infernus on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 04:43 pm:

I have an idea, I'll answer this now, Mew, class E official: 5 wins, Popular not aquired. Same monster, class D official: 4 wins and 1 knockout, popular not aquired. Same monster, class C official:5 knockouts, popular aquired. Two months later, no match fought, popular lost, charisma aquired via supercoach Morgan. And for a bit of a reply to GB's post, popular does help make friends: Tiger: Popularity: 54, 9 out of 10 wilds only become "friends", Tiger: popularity: 92, 9 out of 10 are "best friends". Tiger: Popularity:100, 10 of 10 become "best friends"
Most of the wilds made friends with were the same so it does prove something. As for the popular thing, you can't be accurate with just any monster, my mocchi was born with and retired with popular, my Mew as you can see, didn't, and a Dragon I trained knocked out all his E class official opponents and still didn't get, actually, he never had it once throughout his life.


By Infernus on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 04:49 pm:

Oops, I'm talking popularity, not popular, you're talking about popular GB, sorry...the rest of it that has to do with the popular trait still applies.


By Genki on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 04:56 pm:

My Durahan/Psiroller (Perseus), Duralet.....

When he was born from the Shrine, (just testing if shrined monsters as opposed to combined monsters change popular), went into a 4-teir elimination battle, and won both matches, but not by KO, and got 5 popular points from the battle, and no trait...

But after that my stupid batteries died... and i have to recharge them later.... so... unfortunetly my research has been delayed... heh heh...


By Mewger on Monday, March 3, 2003 - 04:03 pm:

Here, you're talking about the popular trait, so I wanted to say something about it. I have a monster that had the Popular trait right from the shrine. I'll have to check and see what monster it was, but maybe some monsters are more likely to get it? Maybe not.
I know it was a Suzurin- some sub of it. I will check.


By Seize on Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 07:25 pm:

If there is a monster that can be shrined with the Popular trait (which may be true) it would be useful to know of.


By Mewger on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 07:34 pm:

Okay, I finally get around to telling you what Suzurin it was, it was SparkRing. The special Naga Miasman has Popular to begin with as well.