demonknight, over in the long fenrick tourney thread at m-r.com, posted that, in his experience, the monster in the player 1 position wins more than the monster in the player 2 position. fenrick, hengersrock, mepersoner, or anyone with more computer ai battling experience than me - have you noticed such an effect? has anyone ever done a long series, alternating the monsters' positions, to make sure there is no game bias?

Personally, I think it is just a Myth. with the Many, Many, Many Tourney Battles I have been doing, I have alternated 1P and 2P and the outcomes on average are always the same. the underdog STILL gets the occasional Power-up and KO just as he would in 1st player over a series of matches.

I honestly think it is just an observation that people "try" to look for (1P winning more) and that the majority of those people don't bother switching them around and trying another 10 fights to see if the overall outcome is about the same.

your right on that. I didnt switch them and do more ten more battles. It could just be its always my best mosnter agaisnt my other best monster.

This got me thinking.. so I did the following.

1player Vs 2player: Advantage Player 1?

I'm going to do 10 battles, pitting my best monster, Zues against him self.

Zues: Durahan/Durahan
8 years 9 months
All stats 999 except speed which is 207.

All 10 bouts will be computer controlled. The results of each fight will be recorded here.

Fight one: Player one by a knock out.
Fight two: Player one by a knock out.
Fight three: Player two by a knock out.
Fight four: Player two by a knock out.
Fight five: Player two by a percentage.
Fight six: Player one by a knock out.
Fight seven: Player one by a knock out.
Fight eight: Player two by a knock out.
Fight nine: Player one by a percentage.
Fight ten: Player one by a percentage.

The count is player one 6 player two 4
Player one won 60% of the 10 battles. While player two only one 40% of the ten battles. This only a preliminary study, will research more later.

Now I would like others to perform this same test. Using any monster you fell like and post their results here.

DemonKnight

That's really not a big separation. If the player
two had won one more it would've been 50-50

Player 1 Vs Player 2: Continued study

I'm going to use the same format as last time. Only this time I'll fight 20 times in a row.

Zues: Durahan/Durahan
All stats maxed, except speed which is 207
8 years 9 months old.

Fight one: Player one by a knock out
Fight two: Player two by a knock out
fight three: Player two by a knock out
Fight four: Player two by a knock out
Fight five: Player two by a percentage
Fight six: Player two by a knock out
Fight seven: Player two by a knock out
Fight eight: Player one by a percentage
Fight nine: Player two by a percentage
Fight ten: Player two by a percentage
Fight eleven: player one by a percentage
Fight Twelve: Player two by a knock out
Fight Thirteen: Player one by a percentage
Fight Fourteen: Player two by a knock out
Fight Fifteen: Player two by a knock out
Fight Sixteen: Player two by a knock out
Fight Seventeen: Player two by a percentage
Fight Eighteen: Player one by a knock out
Fight Nineteen: Player one by a knock out
Fight twenty: Player one by a percentage

Player one, takes 35% of the victorys, while player two takes 65% of the battles. Almost the opposite of what I found yesterday.(player1 took 60% and player 2 took 40% yesterday.). I shall contiune to do this for at least another 4 sets of 20.