What are some name origins of monsters? Here are a few I know.

Bajarl-a combination of "bizarre" and "jar".
Durahan-a mistranslation of Dullahan, the Irish spirit of death.
Monol-short for monolith.

We used to have a thread on this, I just can't place it right now. I am hoping it wasn't accidently deleted.

Phoenix: mythological bird
Garuda: Mythological Hindu Bird bearer of Vishnu
Mew: noise a Cat makes
Nya: noise a cat makes in Japanese
Mochi: Japanese food item
Suezo: common Japanese name
Golem: Biblical monster

yes, lisa, the main thread was deleted - i just spent nearly an hour looking for it. however, a thread referring to it still exists in the oct cafe, and can serve as a starter if people want to get it back together again:
The Cafe : Year 2000 Topics (Year of The Phoenix): October 2000 Topics: Capella star

I believe Zilla is kinda refering to God(zilla)

Niton is actualy is also a radio active material.

But there are alot of name that would be interesting to know.

did u notice that, in FFIX, one of the moogles is named moocchi?? and in S class of MR2, there is a joker named Thanatos, ever played "Secret of Mana" another squaresoft game. also, yes prometheus is the name of robo in chrono trigger...yet ANOTHER squaresoft game. I think there was another one, but I can't really remember right now.

well, thanatos and prometheus originated in greek mythology. the greeks have been notoriously lax about retaining their intellectual property rights; that is why the names are so appealing to use!

I think Prometheus is one of name most widely used in video games, comic books, science fiction, etc... I can think of at least 3 other characters named Prometheus right off the bat.

Here is a list I started soon after MR2 came out. At the time, I was shooting for the non-obvious. Sorry about the long post.

001. Pixie [Pixie/Pixie] a cheerful mischievous sprite
003. Unico [Pixie/Centaur] sole or solitary; of which there is only one. Italian: unico
004. Jilt [Pixie/Wracky] to reject or cast aside (a lover or sweetheart), esp. abruptly or unfeelingly.
009. Lepus [Pixie/Hare] the Hare, a small southern constellation south of Orion
012. Jinnee [Pixie/Bajarl] Derivative of Djinn (genie) any of a class of spirits, lower than the angels, capable of appearing in human and animal forms and influencing humankind for either good or evil.
016. Lilim [Pixie/Joker] Derivative of Lilith. a female demon dwelling in deserted places and attacking children.
017. Nagisa [Pixie/Jell] Derivative of Naga.
018. Dryad [Pixie/Mock] a deity or nymph of the woods
026. Tiamat [Dragon/Pixie] an Akkadian goddess, the consort of Apsu and mother of the gods.
034. Gariel [Dragon/Gali] I suspect this is a derivative of Gabriel. Judeo-Christian belief, the archangel of Annunciation, Resurrection, Mercy, Revelation and Death.
035. Oscerot [Dragon/Kato] derivative of ocscelot?
036. Dodongo [Dragon/Bajarl] derived from Dongo, god of thunder of the Songhai (upper Niger river).
039. Ragnaroks [Dragon/Monol] Norse: literally, fate of the gods
041. Ferious [Centaur/Pixie] I believed derived from ferrous and furious.
044. Trojan [Centaur/Golem] a person who shows pluck, determination, or energy. Or relates to a person form Troy.
046. Antares [Centaur/Arrow Head] a red supergiant star of the first magnitude in the constellation Scorpius.
049. Reaper [Centaur/Joker] derived from one of the Four Horseman of the Apocalypse
057. Bethelgeus [Beaclon/Dragon] The second brightest star in Orion star cluster.
061. Centurion [Beaclon/Durahan] Officer in the Roman Army. Commanded 100.
064. Jaggernaut [Beaclon/Joker] derivative of Juggernaut. a massive inexorable force that seems to crush everything in its way. An avatar of Vishnu.
069. Gaia [Henger/Golem] known as Earth or Mother Earth
070. Omega [Henger/Zuum] the last of any series; the end.
072. End Bringer [Henger/Joker] another name for Death.
073. Automaton [Henger/Mock] something capable of acting automatically or without an external motive force.
088. Tyrant [Golem/Dragon] a cruel, unjust and oppressive ruler with absolute power.
090. Gobi [Golem/Henger] a desert in E Asia, mostly in Mongolia
092. Golem [Golem/Golem] In Jewish legend, a golem is an image or form that is given life through a magical formula, such as the power of the letters of the divine name
095. Dagon [Golem/Arrow Head] the name means "corn", is an ancient Mesopotamian vegetation god
099. Amenhotep [Golem/Gali] An ancient Egyptian architect who was elevated to the status of god of building.
105. Poseidon [Golem/Jell] Poseidon is a god of many names. He is most famous as the god of the sea
106. Wood Golem [Golem/Mock]
113. Salamander [Zuum/Dragon] a mythical being, esp. a lizard or other reptile, thought to be able to live in fire.
119. Hachiro [Zuum/Baku] probably derived from Hachiman.. the Shinto god of war, and the divine protector of the Japanese people.
121. Tasman [Zuum/Kato] 1602?-59, Dutch navigator and explorer.
123. Mustardy [Zuum/Suezo] he yellow.
124. Basilisk [Zuum/Joker] The mythical king of the serpents. The first kind burns everything it approaches, and the second kind can kill every living thing with a mere glance.
127. Aloha Saurian [Zuum/Plant] Aloha is a Hawaiian term. With its coloring, it looks like it should be in Hawaii.
133. Vesuvius [Durahan/Dragon] an active volcano in SW Italy, near Naples.
134. Hercules [Durahan/Beaclon] was the son of Jupiter and Alcmene. A Demi-god of great strength
136. Durahan [Durahan/Durahan] derived from Durandal, the sword of Roland.
137. Lorica [Durahan/Arrow Head] a hard protective case or sheath, as the protective coverings secreted by certain protists.
139. Garuda [Durahan/Phoenix] a golden-bodied bird recorded by the Buddhist culture.
141. Genocider [Durahan/Joker] yet another derivative on death.
143. Shogun [Durahan/???] chief military commanders in Japan 8th to 12th century
145. Kokushi Muso [Durahan/???] Zen Master "Muso Kokushi" who restored Saihoji Temple (Moss Temple).
153. Sumopion [Arrow Head/???] derived from the Japanese Sumo wrestlers.
159. Balon [Tiger/Gali] probably from Celtic mythology, Balon is the god of death and the king of the Fomorians, a race of giants
165. Cabalos [Tiger/Naga] probably derived from cabal, a small group of secret plotters, as against a government or person in authority.
171. Mustachios [Hopper/Kato] due to his mustache
208. Gali [Gali/Gali] The hierodules or priests of Cybele
218. Gordish [Kato/Gali] probably derived from Gordias, a Phrygian farmer on whose plough an eagle once landed, a sign that one day he would became king.
220. Citronie [Kato/Suezo] derived from citron, having the color citron (yellow)
253. Orion [Suezo/Gali] Orion was the son of Poseidon and Euryale.
268. Bengal [Jill/Kato] resembles that type of tiger.
279. Hell Pierrot [Mocchi/Joker] a male character in certain French pantomime, having a whitened face and wearing a loose, white, fancy costume.
288. Odium [Joker/Bajarl] intense hatred or dislike, esp. toward a person or thing regarded as contemptible, despicable, or repugnant.
304. Chloro Jell [Jell/Plant] derivative of chlorophyll, an important part of a plants biology.
312. Ammon [Niton/Golem] The son of Lot and his younger daughter Benammi. Ammon became the ancestor of peripheral Hebrew clan called the Ammonites. Could be derived from Amun, a primordial Egyptian god, whose name means "the hidden one".
344. Reggae Plant [Plant/???] must have to do with the coloring. Very Jamacan, man.
345. Romper Wall [Monol/Pixie] a person or thing that romps.
346. Obelisk [Monol/Golem] a tapering, four-sided shaft of stone, usually monolithic and having a pyramidal apex.
347. Jura Wall [Monol/Zuum] probably related to Jurassic for dinosaur (zuum),
354. Monol [Monol/Monol] short for monolith
355. Soboros [Monol/Worm] could be derived from Sobo, a voodoo spirit, particularly of thunder, one of the a loa. Sobo looks like a handsome soldier
356. Asphaltum [Monol/Naga] any of various dark-colored, solid, bituminous substances, native in various areas of the earth and composed mainly of hydrocarbon mixtures.
357. Galaxy [Monol/???] has a starry look.
358. Dominos [Monol/???] looks like a domino
359. Scribble [Monol/???] has scribbling on it.
361. Gibberer [Ape/Hare] from gibber, . to speak inarticulately or meaninglessly. Not derived from gib ala Quake.
370. Corone [Worm/Hare] corone in Spanish means crown.
380. Trident [Naga/Golem] a three-pronged instrument or weapon (related to the claws I am sure).
385. Cyclops [Naga/Suezo] One-eyed giant of the race that built Olympus for the gods. Doesn’t fit does it.

Cheers!

Varthlokkur

wow! great list!

Also, there's a type of fossilized spiral shell called an ammonite. Appropriate for a stone Niton.

Here are some more of mine:
Caloriena (Mocchi/???)-combination of "calorie" and "ballerina"
Dao (Golem/Bajarl)-an evil genie from the Elemental Plane of Earth
Dokoo (Gaboo/Joker)-misspelling of "doku", Japanese for poison
Magna (Golem/Worm)-Latin for "great"
Melcarba (Beaclon/Henger)-a mistranslation of "Merkabah", a type of angel.

Nice stuff! Here are a few more:

037. Gidras (Dragon/Metalner): Possible alternate spelling of "Gidrah" - also called "Monster X" in Western translations - who was a dragonlike monster from another world and a foe of Godzilla in a number of the KoM's movies. I'm guessing this is a reference to this breed's Metalner blood.
042. Dragoon (Centaur/Dragon): Clever play on words, as a dragoon was a type of horse soldier who frequently was trained in the use of close weapons, much like the centaur's spear in MR2
057. Bethelgeus (Beaclon/Dragon): Misspelling of 'Betelgeuse', a bright star in Orion.
095. Dagon (Golem/Arrowhead): H.P. Lovecraft also used this name to refer to a terrifying sea monster which is mentioned in several of his stories (and appears personally in one).
103. Titan (Golem/Suezo): In Greek mythology, a powerful and immortal race who ruled before the Gods and were overthrown by them.
109. Magna (Golem/Worm): Latin, meaning great or excellent.
137. Lorica (Durahan/Arrowhead): Latin again, meaning "armor". The typical Roman Legionaire wore a type of plate armor called "lorica segmentata".
227. Gigalon (Zilla/Jell): Similar to "Megalon", another monster from Godzilla movies, but presumably even stonger (since "giga" is superior to "mega")
271. Skull Capped (Jill/Joker): A skull cap is a small round hat that covers only the very crown of the head, similar to the yarmulke worn by men who are Orthodox Jewish.
272. Pithecan (Jill/???): Misspelling of "Pithcairn". Taken from "Pithcairn Man", one of the anthropological discoveries which helped trace the evolution of man.
323. Ebony (Mock/Joker): This is not only a type of (very!) hardwood tree, but also means utterly black in color. I love double meanings!

goliath (the baku/golem in s-class) is alsoaftaer a giant in the bible who was defeated by david

Undine is, according to the Swiss-born
alchemist and physician Paracelsus, a water-spirit that can obtain a
human soul by bearing a child to a human husband

Mermaid is a women with a fish's tail.

Saurian is a type of dionsuar that is like a raptor

I've been serching the net for a long time and I've come to the conclusion that KautRoarKaut(beaclon/barjarl)and Dodango(dragon/bargarl)are made up.They sound hindoo(pardon the misspelling I'm not good at it)but I can't find any proof.Can anyone back me up on this one?

wasn't dodango a monster in the zelda games on the nes?

Dodongo, yes. It was a triceratops beast that you killed by feednig bombs. In Zelda 1, anyhow.

Dodongo is also in both the Zelda games on
the 64... and since it's colored similarly to the
Dodongo in the first Zelda game, I'm inclined
to think they come from the same idea, if not
both from a mythology in the mideast
somewhere...

As for some of the other ones (i.e. Durahan is
similar to Dullahan, and Oscerot similar to
Ocelot), there is one important thing to
remember about the Japanese language, in
that it has no "L" sound. I've learned that
sometimes in the attempt to translate to
English, the "R"s will get changed to "L"s in an
effort to make it correct, even if it's not needed!
At the same time, occasionally a change over
won't happen (which, if they meant 'Dullahan',
makes sense then), and the "R" sound stays
where an "L" sound should be.

Don't believe me? Watch enough Dragon Ball
Z or Outlaw Star (Thank God for Toonami!),
and you'll notice Krillin's name spelled
"Kururin", Piccolo's name spelled "Picorro",
and the word "congratulations" spelled
"congraturations".

This may shed a tadbit of lite...

PezCat

Naga come sfrom the Indian name "naja" A naja is a man with the head and tail of a snake and posses white lips?

A few other ones I'll take a stab at:

*Selketo (Arrowhead/Joker): Perhaps derived from "skeleton"?

*Renocraft (Arrowhead/Henger): A few different theories my friends have on this one; some say it's named because it looks like a desert-dweller, and Reno (Nevada) is located in the middle of a desert. Another says that some early space or sea exploration vehicles (which this would resemble) were either named Renocraft or were manufactured in Nevada's capital. I wouldn't place bets on either of these, though.

*Ultrarl (Bajarl/???): Looks like the campy old B-movie action star Ultra Man, who has fought off his share of giant, Power Ranger-esque monsters (or rather, the Rangers copied him) and destroyed Tokyo several times over in the process.

*Higante (Baku/Golem): If said out load, it sounds like the Spanish word for "gigantic."

*Celious (Centaur/Tiger): So many other names in the series are derived from stars, this shouldn't be too hard. Revise the spelling, correct for bad translation, and you get "Sirius," which I believe is known as the "Dog Star"?

*Tram (ColorPandora/???): European slang-term for a subway.

*Angolmor (Golem/Joker): I believe "Angol Moa" is some sort of vengeful volcano god in Hawaiian lore. Eagle Fierce, could you check on this? I know I've heard the name before.

*Forward (Golem/???): For those foreign to the American sport of Football (not to be confused with what the rest of the world calls football, which we call soccer), the Forward is one of the star positions of the team. Someone who knows more about sports could give more technical details. (And yes, I felt the need to say this because I know a good chunk of our traffic on the board is international.)

*Pong-pong (Jill/Pixie): The name of some famous gorilla back a few decades ago. I think it was a present from the Chinese, along with the pandas Ling-ling and Hsing-hsing.

*Citronie (Kato/Suezo): Probably derived from citrus, the healthy little vitamin C found in fruits like lemons.

*Nyankoro (Mocchi/Kato): "Nyan" is Japanese for "Miaow." In fact, the Mew monster was called Nya in the first Monster Rancher.

*Baum Kuchen (Niton/Mock): A German pastry that resembles a slice of log.

*Unico (Pixie/Centuar): Look at it. It looks like a Unicorn.

Janna (Pixie/Durahan): Possibly derived from Joan D'Arc, a 14-year-old girl who led the French army against the British with visions and advice she claimed to receive from angels. She was captured by the British and burned at the stake for heresy, then received Sainthood from the Catholic Church.

Lilim (Pixie/Joker): Probably comes from Lilith, a name that shows up all over the place in videogames (so I don't know where it comes from, outside of being Celtic in origin), but it always refers to an evil woman or female monster.

Siren (Undine/Joker): Evil monsters that would lure sailors to their deaths in Greek mythology using their hypnotic voices. They appear in the Iliad, among other things.

Actually, as to "Lilith," the place I've heard that it comes from is from religion (not sure if it's Judaism, Christianity, or both). Supposedly, in some versions of the story, Eve wasn't Adam's first wife. His first wife was Lilith, but because she was too proud and not obediant to Adam, etc., she ended up leaving the Garden (and Eve was later made as Adam's consort), and Lilith then went on to take demons as her consorts and became the mother of demons.

Or something like that.

Actually, I know that legend well, though not certain whether to believe it or not. The way that I heard it was that Lilith was originally Lucifer's partner, but God ordered him to give her up for Adam. Lilith was a 100% rebellious feminist and God disapproved of it. Lilith left Adam in disobedience and was trailed by three of God's highest Archangels. They warned her that she unless she returned they were going to use some sort of Holy seal on her. She still refused to go, and the seal was used to bind her to the realm. The angels thought they'd done their job, but she became the first Succubus, and fed off the souls of the young children born. Because of this threat, the parents of the child would put a replica of the seal in the crib, and whenever Lilith was in the presence of it, she became helpless. It's the equivalent of a vampire to garlic. Instead, she began to seduce the older men (always a hater of the opposite sex), and if I remember correctly, she stole their souls either before or after intercourse. In any case, she WAS the Mother of Demons.

Okay, here's what I HAVEN'T found on Angol Moa. It ISN'T Hawaiian in any sense of the word. I even checked with my little Brother, and he agrees that Pele is the goddess sealed in the volcano. So, I ran it through several lists and came up with a very precious few matches.

-Angol Moa is used once in some Chzek/Zimbabwe document that I can't make out.

-Angol Moa is the name of some goddess "traveler" that gave the council powers to change their forms in a story by T-Rex called "Traveler On Trial." She was above the supreme elders as the most powerful being in the universe.

-Angol Moa is one of the bosses in the game "Wild Arms" (I figure that this is where you've heard that name before, Nate). He is one of the Golems that the team battles, after using Rudy's "Power Gloves" and obtaining 5 Dulpicator keys, then break out the glass in the arena and jump through. He appears to have some affinity with the element of ILLUSION. I wonder if this is the key to the identity to what it means? I've also noticed that every Golem in the "Wild Arms" game is named or paraphrased from gods or deities of destruction.

1.) Luficer- DUH! If I have to explain this one, you're really lost.

2.) Seto- Unsure, but I've seen the name often enough as a hero in Japanese games.

3.) Diablo- Once again, a no brainer.

4.) Lolitha- Change "o" to "i" and take out the "a"

5.) Barbados- I forget where, but I remember when I was reading "Paradise Lost," one of Lucifer's lieutenants was named this, and I think it's yet another name for Lucifer.

6.) Leviathon- A giant sea creature such as whale, mentioned in the Old Testament (it's spelled wrong, though).

7.) Angol Moa- It's what we're trying to find out.

8.) RaguRala- Oddly enough, this one came out as being foreign code for a boolean expression (if/else statements); Ragu is if, Rala is else. Though, I truly think there's more to this one, one merely needs to dig deeper.

In conclusion, I can only theorize that Angol Moa is either the name of a God of the underworld in some middle-eastern religion, or it's a combination of words meaning "angel and/in devil." It's a bit of a far grasp, but with some translation skills and a little common sense, it works. Sorry that I couldn't get discover it for certain, Nate.

Leviathon I do belive is a Water God in some kind of religion kinda looks like a huge cross between a snake and dragon.

Chariots were Armored wagons pulled by horses in roman times

1 thing varthlokkur, the corone (worm/hare) is named after the pastry it resembles. its says so on the card. lol, otherwise an ok description, but the worm has nothing to do with crowns.

LEVIATHON: Incorrect spelling of leviathan, a very
large sea serpent defeated by Yahweh in various
scriptural accounts (either an Middle English,
Late Latin, or most liklely Hebrew myth)
PHOENIX: A legendary bird which according to one
account lived 500 years, burned itself to ashes on
a pyre and stayed dead for 500 years, and rose
alive from the ashes to live another period (greek
myth).

That's my updating, if you have any mythical names
you have trouble with, post it a.s.a.p. on your
next post!! For i am MANTAI!! The Myth Man!!!

There's an S-ranked Joker named Thanatos, which in Greek translates into DEATH

umm what about Poseidon(i think it is a golem/jell), that is a greek god(its an expansion pack to zues, which is the sequel to pharoah, a sim-city like building game for the pc)

Yes, that would be the god of the ocean/sea/water in general.

Yahweh I do belive is the name of god in the Jewish religion but it is forbiden to say.... or am I getting my facts mixed up again. but thanks for the clearing up.

Naga is actually mythical in any sense, it's been around for as long as one can imagine. Depending on what you read or hear, it's any number of things; it's either snake body, human head; snake body, human torso and head; human body, snake head; sometimes, I've seen that the Naga in question can transform between these states, and rarely enough into a pure human form.

Also

Leviathan originates from biblical texts; basically a large reptilian form of some sort. Truly thought to originate from an Alligator/Crocodile, though. It seems most popular in the Final Fantasy series.

ALSO

Lilith was reputadly made from clay, not flesh...

Sirens are tough to tell if they're originally like harpies or basically human woman with wings that can attract any mortal man with song and eat hunan flesh. Originally water nymphs, some change got them their wings, and at some time challenged the Muses to a contest (and lost), resulting in exile of themselves to the Isle of Capri. They got passed by two times, first by Odysseus, and the second by Orpheus (with Jason and the Argonauts). The second time prompted suicide.

Hengar: (Misspelling of?) Place where spaceships are kept(?)

Hey, about dodongo, when Romans dug up a triceratops fossil, they named it dodongo which can be loosely translated to "shield beast"

Surprised this one hasn't been mentioned already.
Baku - An evil animal-like spirit from Japanese mythology which feeds on people's dreams while they sleep.

(Note to Pokemon players: In one of the games, the background info on Drowzee/Hypno states that it supposedly descended from the legendary Baku.) Since I believe Kirin is the "good" counterpart to Baku, there should be a Baku/Gali in one of the sequels named "Kirin."

Here's another one:

Kamui (Tiger/???) - From the Japanese word "Kamuii", meaning "Cold"

I thought it was "Samuii" that was cold.

*Checks out his J-E dictionary*

Your're right Nate, my bad.

Still sounds awfully similar to Kamui though.

Umm....Alphat, being the only jew here, I can tell you that
A) we aren't forbidden to say it
B)Yahweh? Oy Vey! His name is Adonai

Niton is like an aceint sea crustation known as a nautulis

Janne i think might be Jone of Arc by the way she looks

There was an armored swordwoman in the 'World Heroes' fighting game that was named 'Janne', actually. I'm figuring that's where her name came from. Although I'm not positive where _that_ character's name came from.

My guess: A corruption of Joan (of Arc). That's the first thing I thought of on seeing her.

Particularly since it was spelt (most likely) Jeanne D'Arc. Just drop the E and there you go.

Hum... for you don't know the whole story of Ragnorok, It is the War between the gods led by Odin and evil forces led by Loki, Hel, and Surtr. Odin will protect the earth but in so Destoying everything he was trying to protect. And for just a bit more info. Fenris (the few who used him in FF9 know the wolf) The huge wolf is the son of Loki and Angur-boda. He is tied to Ragnorok by a silk string untill he devours Odin.

If Odin was a joker in MR2 I guess thats why Fenris isn't in Mr2 :p

I thought it was Fenrir, or Fenril in case of bad translation. But it's not Fenris. And what's this about Odin being a Joker?

"Pithecan (Jill/???): Misspelling of "Pithcairn". Taken from "Pithcairn Man", one of the anthropological discoveries which helped trace the evolution of man."

I thought it was from "Australopithecan," the fabled Missing Link between ape and human.

Gooji is a Japanese an alternate term for tilefish, as Iron Chef afficionados learned last week.

Correction, Punisher: "Moo" comes from the Japanese word "Mu," which basically means "void," "nothingness," etc.

My appologies to those I may have offended by incorect information about the Jewism and for the delay of my reply do to my absense when it was posted.

I am pretty sure Ammon (Niton/Golem) is referring to an Ammonite, an ancient nautilus

Naga - generally considered to be named for the man-snakes found in the Hindu Vedas. They are reported as having the head or upper body and head of a man.

Baku - Is known as Tapir in the early design sketches, but was changed, probably to avoid problems with Pokemon comparisons (Drowzee).

Dagon - Lovecraft mentioned it, but he stole it whole-cloth from a Middle Eastern religion.

And the Japanese actually call the big lizard, Gojirah.

John is correct, and has verifiable references.

Please cite actual, specific references rather than "an asian language". Or "where I come from". All you are doing is creating more work for the moderators who have to edit this unfounded speculation from the thread.

Also note, deliberately posting incorrect/unverified information is a violation of the posting guidelines for this board.

To Alphat: I should apologize, Yahweh was the old old old old old Hebrew name for God, but it's not forbidden to say

Thank you for correcting me Velo I enjoy learning of other religions for many have the same roots which can help understand others more.

P.S. Sorry for the name change earlyer I was carless and chose the wrong option.

i once saw a one eyed creature which looked like suezo on a japanse movie"haunted school"(it's a suezo-esqe latern with no tail.

Just for sake of clarifying on the 'Zilla...
The original name, Gojira, translates from the
Japanese slang it's derived from to 'Gorilla
Whale', which the 'Zilla resembles more the latter
half than the former. I don't quite know enough
Japanese to do a full etymology on the word, but
I can at least confirm that much.

Also, Hercules in the MR context refers more to
the Hercules beetle, who's prodigious horn is the
helm decoration for the Durahan/Beaclon cross.

From the Japanese mythology I'd studied, Baku
weren't necessarily -evil-, though they were
definitely detrimental to craftsmen and artisans,
who would find themselves unable to create after a
Baku devoured their dreams. I also recall
something about how the act of catching one would
lead to an artisan creating their greatest
masterpiece by using some of the leftover dream-
essence, but I digress. Just like in MR, though,
they ARE funny lookin' buggers...

309: Siren [Undine/Joker] Greek Mythology-said to have been beautiful (sometimes described as bird-like and other times mermaid-like) nymphs who lived on rocks in the ocean and lured sailors to their deaths with their beautiful songs.