News Flash! Foods don't affect bonding.

Monster Rancher Metropolis: Monster Rancher 4 Archive (PS2): Ranching Tips: News Flash! Foods don't affect bonding.
By Infernus on Sunday, February 8, 2004 - 07:49 pm:

Four years and four months of feeding a Henger its favourite food, and it still hated my guts. I'm sure Harrabcat can vouch for me on this one.

This leaves the the looking into of gadgets, items, battles, and adventures.

Any comments? Questions? Attempts to say I'm a lying piece of crap?


By CHB on Monday, February 9, 2004 - 12:42 pm:

You're monster didn't dislike Rest did it? :P

Also, was there anything else that it really didn't like? I.E. Scolding, or something the reduced its weight?

Anything else that might have affected these results? (P.S. I'll double check, not saying you are wrong, but just wondering)


By Infernus on Monday, February 9, 2004 - 02:37 pm:

They disliked "White Pot", and the rest didn't cause them to get stressed or anything, so I would presume they were neutral, or liked it. The monsters used were the Hengers (5 of them), which were rested their entire life. So, no scolding, or anything of the like that might have affected the results.


By CHB on Monday, February 9, 2004 - 04:00 pm:

Thank you, just checking.


By Harrabcat on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 - 05:11 pm:

Yep, Neither the pixies nor the phoenices liked me at all.


By Kurasu Soratobu on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 07:57 am:

Try some praisings on the monsters that you're raising (sleeping?). It seems to me that the rhythm of 'stick and carrot' helps work with the bonding. I'm surprised that favorite food didn't help bonding, mind you. I would have thought that would come in under 'carrot'. Maybe it's because they were spoiled the whole way, so like in MR2, the 'spoil' overcame the 'fear'.


By Infernus on Friday, February 13, 2004 - 02:28 pm:

Well, in MR2, it was 50/50, iirc. So, that would mean that the bar should've been at least half full. That's always a possibilty though.


By Kurasu Soratobu on Saturday, February 14, 2004 - 04:33 am:

You've got a point about that. So either bonding doesn't do anything when the monster's spoiled (unlikely), or food, even favorite foods, definitely have nothing to do with it like you said (more likely). Wonder if items are the same way. So many variables! I think I'll have to try and split off a save and test.


By Kurasu Soratobu on Saturday, February 14, 2004 - 06:48 am:

Ok. I just finished up a short run of testing with monsters. Five different monsters, five different ways of feeding, no bonding whatsoever. So food alone definitely does nothing for bonding, as Infernus said. I'd show the week-by-week, but let's face it: 'no change' 'no change' 'no change' would get monotonous after a while. ;)


By darktatsu on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 02:24 pm:

did any one try giving them a veriety of foods


By Infernus on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 03:28 pm:

I used 5 Hengers, Harrabcat used 5 (or was it 10?) Pixies, and 5 Phoenices. Kurasu just stated "five different ways of feeding", so there's more proof. 20-25 monsters, a variety of foods, etc. Really, I would've shown my data for my 5 Hengers, but as Kurasu said, it would get monotonous posting "no change" after a while. Also, there's not much point in restating info I've already stated, and I said that I used.

For more information on the details of this statement, see Monster Rancher Metropolis: Monster Rancher 4 Archive (PS2): Miscellaneous Q&A (Post New Questions Here) : Henger Lifespan Tests (those are the same Hengers used in this statement), Monster Rancher Metropolis: Monster Rancher 4 Archive (PS2): Research on game mechanics: Pixie Lifespan Tests, and Monster Rancher Metropolis: Monster Rancher 4 Archive (PS2): Research on game mechanics: Phoenix Lifespan Tests. That's all my information, and all of Harrabcat's information. Please see those before asking anymore questions about this(make sure you read the whole thread).


By Kurasu Soratobu on Monday, February 16, 2004 - 10:10 pm:

For detail, I fed one monster his favorite all the way through, one monster his most disliked food, one monster a middle-level food, one monster a huge variety (with the only balance being that I kept him normal) and one a mixture of best and worst foods. No bonding change on any of the five.


By Kitsune on Sunday, April 11, 2004 - 03:11 pm:

Let's see, if you kept a pet, doubt you could call it a pet in this case but anyway, and simply fed it, but ignored it other than that (As in the only time it would see you was when you fed it), would it bond with you? Even if it liked the food?
At least for me, I don't think this would be the case...
As for MR4, maybe the fact of Phayne giving them instructions or saying what to do makes the AI emulate a 'caring' feeling on the monsters, which would raise the bonding... *shrugs*