Phoenix Lifespan Tests

Monster Rancher Metropolis: Monster Rancher 4 Archive (PS2): Research on game mechanics: Phoenix Lifespan Tests
By Harrabcat on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 07:25 pm:

Ok I have now completed the Phoenix lifespan tests. Here you go.

T1-T5 all born on 6/1, 2 phoenices from combining (one of those combinations was from 2 cd phoenices and another was from 2 encyclepedia phoenices), 1 Phoenix from encyclepedia, and 2 phoenices from cd. The phoenices were all had the High Pride Temper.For the Cd I used the poisen Cd (mr2 monster subcodes in the lab) Stats on that Cd are as follows:

LifPowIntAccSpdDef
150160190120150120


Ok heres the phoenix's and i put the pixies T6-T10 for comparative purposes
RaceNameMade byFedBirthdateStage2Stage3Stage4Stage5Death
PhoenixT1ComboPotato6/18mo1wk1yr6mo3wk2yr5mo2wk3yr1mo2wk3yr4mo0wk
PhoenixT2ComboEnergy bar6/18mo1wk1yr6mo3wk2yr5mo2wk3yr1mo2wk3yr4mo0wk
PhoenixT3EncycPotato6/18mo1wk1yr6mo3wk2yr5mo2wk3yr1mo2wk3yr4mo0wk
PhoenixT4CdPotato6/18mo1wk1yr6mo3wk2yr5mo2wk3yr1mo2wk3yr4mo0wk
PhoenixT5CdBeef6/18mo1wk1yr6mo3wk2yr5mo2wk3yr1mo2wk3yr4mo0wk
PixieT6ComboPotato8/110mo1wk1yr11mo2wk3yr0mo3wk3yr10mo3wk4yr2mo0wk
PixieT7ComboVitamins8/110mo1wk1yr11mo2wk3yr0mo3wk3yr10mo3wk4yr2mo0wk
PixieT8EncycPotato8/110mo1wk1yr11mo2wk3yr0mo3wk3yr10mo3wk4yr2mo0wk
PixieT9CdPotato8/110mo1wk1yr11mo2wk3yr0mo3wk3yr10mo3wk4yr2mo0wk
PixieT10CdPork8/110mo1wk1yr11mo2wk3yr0mo3wk3yr10mo3wk4yr2mo0wk


As you can (or cannot) see the phoenices lived much less then the pixies. I'll get to doing more analysis a little later. I also fixed the data for the pixies in this post and the phoenices data is right I swear :)

Any Questions, comments, or the likewise?


By Harrabcat on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 08:38 pm:

Ok Heres some analysis of this data.

First off the phoenix lived 160 weeks and the pixie lived 200 weeks. Lifespan layout like this

Weeks to reach2nd stage3rd stage4th stage5th stageDeath
Phoenix3375118150160
Pixie4194147187200


Ok Heres how long each stage was (in weeks)

Breed1st stage2nd stage3rd stage4th stage5th stage
Phoenix3342433210
Pixie4153534013


Heres how much of the Phoenix/Pixies lifespan was in each stage (in percent)

Breed1st stage2nd stage3rd stage4th stage5th stage
Phoenix20.625%26.25%26.875%20%6.25%
Pixie20.5%26.5%26.5%20%6.5%


Ok theres the data(sorry for any mistakes in the data if there is any.) I'd like to thank Toreyluvullo and Silveriusome for helping me do the math.

Any Questions, comments, or the likewise?


By CHB on Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 09:17 pm:

I'd have to double check the mathematics, when I get the time.

But I do want to thank you for your hard work/thorough data collection. Hats off to your work.


By CHB on Sunday, February 1, 2004 - 01:13 am:

Looks good by my calculations. I am impressed with your efforts on this and congratulate you again. As soon as I have my PS2, I'll begin assisting more than just double checking math conversions. :P


By torey luvullo on Sunday, February 1, 2004 - 07:27 am:

yes - very interesting start. this could mean that the stages of mr4 monsters lives are more uniform [like mr3 was] than different [like mr2 was]. or it could just mean that you stumbled on two monsters of a similar pattern to begin the research, and there might be differences, if different breeds are examined. in that regard, we noted that these are monsters from two different "groups", pixie being a sprite and phoenix being a spirit.

all in all, a good start. definitive conclusions cannot be drawn, however, without more breeds being thrown into the mix.


By CHB on Sunday, February 1, 2004 - 02:24 pm:

Phoenixs are a good start for a base monster life span, since they have only one /? breed, and no subs to effect life. They are a good breed to test the effects of stress, food, injury, and battles strain of life span with.

Maybe next Pixie test should have more than one, to include a Pixie/Durahan. In MR2, those things lived considerably longer than the regular Pixie.


By Harrabcat on Sunday, February 1, 2004 - 09:34 pm:

Ok combined the 2 Cd phoenix's heres what i got

xLifPowIntAccSpdDef
T4150160190120150120
T5150160190120150120
Baby143194246153191120

T4 and T5 had bonding lvl of Great Friends

As you can see the baby excelled in all stats besides Lif and stayed the same for defense.


By Harrabcat on Monday, February 2, 2004 - 06:46 pm:

Ok I've decided to combine all the phoenices with all the other phoenices to see what happens heres the stats for the test phoenices.




xLifPowIntAccSpdDef
T1120150190140160110
T2120150190140160110
T3120150190140160110
T4150160190120150120
T5150160190120150120


The Baseline stats go like this
xLifPowIntAccSpdDef
Baseline120150190140160110
Order5th3rd1st4th2nd6th

Stat composition:870




Ok heres the combining

xLifPowIntAccSpdDef
T1&T2131179246167207120
Order5th3rd1st4th2nd6th

Didn't Matter which was picked first
Stat composition:1050

T1&T3 same result as T1&T2

xLifPowIntAccSpdDef
T1&T4143194246153191120
Order5th2nd1st4th3rd6th

Didn't Matter which was picked first
Stat composition:1047

T1&T5 same result as T1&T4

T2&T3 same result as T1&T2

xLifPowIntAccSpdDef
T2&T4120150190140160110
Order5th3rd1st4th2nd6th

Didn't Matter which was picked first
Stat composition:870

T2&T5 same result as T2&T4

T3&T4 same result as T1&T4

T3&T5 same result as T1&T4

T4&T5 same result as T1&T4




Ok there you have it all the combining information for the phoenices. Pretty Nifty eh?

Any questions, comments, Or the likewise?
By Petit-Trot on Tuesday, February 3, 2004 - 07:25 pm:

Ok, I'm looking at those baby monsters and they make pretty good starting monsters. In fact, they seem as good as the babies I get from combinations of fully raised monsters. As anyone with experience on combos ever do better than those babies?